Minutes
See agenda below
Editing Tutorial
The session went pretty well, but was very fast and ran at lest double the original 45 minutes allocated. Everyone indicated that they understood the basis of the mark-up method and would be comfortable editing pages. There were some questions that weren't answered, and they were recored (see action items).
Discussion
Some random notes (
Larry Baltz: from memory from the meeting):
- There was some discussion of how to allocate the 5 FTP access accounts we get with our web hosting account. The sub issue was how much access do we give the church membership as a whole. It would be good to be able to track who made what changes, but this wouldn't be practical if we get past 5 people being able to upload files to the site. See decisions list below.
- We talked about having the Rota on line. Larry showed a mockup of the Rota using wiki mark-up. There was some concern the the complexity of the table mark-up would be too daunting for Lara or David to manage. The balancing point was that trying to put some process/method in place to manage the Rota on-line may prevent it from getting on line at all. See decisions.
- The issue of personal privacy issues were discussed. In particular email address and phone numbers being on the publicly visible portions of the web site. It was mentioned that the email problem is mitigated by the use of email aliases. See decisions section.
Action Items
- Change name of Joyful Noise to something else [Claire Naylor has indicated that she is not concerned about this naming]
- Larry to contact everyone who has personal contact information on the website to ask if they are OK with it being there.
- Clean up image at the top of every page.
- Group to have further discussion about email protection and management
- Look into the possibility of cross group upload references. [Larry Baltz doesn't look like the current implementation allows this. There's a Pm Wiki cookbook entry that would facilitate this [1], or we could configure the site so all uploads go into a common directory across all groups.]
- Look into upload maintenance : space and history [Larry Baltz: currently all uploads go into a "upload" directory with a subdirectory for the group they were uploaded from. If you upload a file with the
same name as an existing file (in the same group), the newer file will overwrite the
older file.
- Create church only profile group [Larry Baltz: This is done and the group is called Church Only Profiles, but I'm now thinking that we should turn this around and read access protect the Profiles group and create a group called something like Public Profiles that holds publicly visible profiles.]
- FTP account to general population of church [Larry Baltz: done. See Meta for more details
- Create a Email addresses alias for Thursday-group and magzine. See Site To Do.
Decisions
- Just have pages in the [2] group for home groups (as opposed to individual groups). If the groups are active they can create a group as they need.
- Email addresses for home groups should include the location and time they meet. So a group may have an email of moirans-thursday@grenoblechurch.org.
[Larry Baltz: the page names for the home groups should follow a similar scheme. So, for group mentioned above, the page name would be MoiransThursday.
- We will have 2 FTP accounts: one for admins, which have access to the top level of the web accounts file directory; and one for the church membership as a whole that will only have access to a subdirectory of the web account directories. This will help prevent inadvertent misconfigurations and file overwrites and deletions in the main web configuration areas (.htaccess files, wiki pages, robot.txt files, etc.).
- We'll maintain the Rota in wiki mark-up for the next couple of months and see if it's workable. If yes, cool, but if not, we'll look at something more sophisticated to manage it [Larry Baltz: Cookbook:FormTemplateSystem may be a good way to manage this. I'm trying to get this running, but it's a bit arcane. I'l let you guys know if I make any reasonable progress.]
Agenda
- Agenda bashing
- Editing Tutorial
- Some notes
- Please be patient -- I get to how to create new pages
- I'll cover the basics of editing pages. There is more advanced mark up that you read about yourself or for which we can have another tutorial.
- Please ask questions and if I'm going too fast -- tell me to slow down!
- What is a wiki (and why the weird name)?
- How to start to edit a page
- Your "UserName"
- Preview mode (don't hit the "Reset" button!)
- Basic markup
- Paragraphs
- Headings
- Bullet and numbered lists
- Line continuation and line breaks
- Bold, italic and fixed-width text
- Block quotes (indentation)
- Things to be careful of (i.e. things that may be counter intuitive...)
- Links
- Links to pages in the wiki
- Wiki page names and WikiWords and CamelCase
- Groups
- Referencing a page that doesn't yet exist and creating new pages!
- Uploads using the
Attach:yyy mark-up
- Links to pages anywhere on the web just use the URL
- Interwiki links
- Free links with
{{ }} notation
- Adding labels to links with
[[ ]]
- Basic tables
- Stuff that you may want to know but I'm not going to cover today
- Advanced tables
- Font color and size
- Creating new groups
- Administration of the site, groups and individual pages
- Page redirection
- Deleting pages
- Site organization and management
- Site structure
- What do we initially want to cover?
- What's missing?
- Any obvious stuff to restructure?
- Groups
- Admin and config.
- Main
- Meta
- Music (and Music Media)
- Admin (another name?)
- Profiles (and what names to use)
- Home Groups
- Site permissions (view, edit, upload, admin).
- Administration
- Who administers what?
- Who want's to be an admin?
- Stuff outside the wiki
- Other HTML content
- PHP and other scripts to do specific jobs
